WestWind Airlines

Short field takeoff in a fully loaded 777-300 at ENOL RWY 33 with a 11 kt tailwind on takeoff. RWW per Phil's suggestion.

Can anyone give a general idea of what the short field takeoff procedure should be for a heavy? I use the same one I use for a Cessna. Full throttle until max power is developed, one extra notch of flaps. Does that sound right or will full throttle skid it across the runway with the brakes on?

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WWA1702 Senior Command Captain +3
RWP SEL Instrument Rating (almost)
WW Test Pilot
Monster Driver

Ok, but then people will have to give the wind and pressure settings to keep it honest.

 

How about a flight from Denver to Aspen with an approach to minimums at Aspen in whatever airplane you are comfortable?

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WWA1702 Senior Command Captain +3
RWP SEL Instrument Rating (almost)
WW Test Pilot
Monster Driver

VPCargo:

I also did it in a Boeing 717 at MGTOW, it was a little more interesting than in a Lear......but I made it out, why they would put the airport there I have no idea..... 

 I can see it now.  Next time you go to work, one of your ecology-minded customers will want to fly to that airport for some reason....

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Tony Lyons
WWA1369

VPCargo:

I also did it in a Boeing 717 at MGTOW, it was a little more interesting than in a Lear......but I made it out, why they would put the airport there I have no idea..... 

How certain were you that you would make it out?

I made a RW landing in a C172 at a 3500 ft (I think) strip in Arkansas with TALL trees on both ends of the RW. I did it by the book, got in and out OK, but after thinking about it, I decided I didn't want to go back in there. It is just a little too tight. Slip up just a little and one could find oneself sitting in the tops of those trees. Why they wouldn' t cut those trees I have no idea.

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WWA1702 Senior Command Captain +3
RWP SEL Instrument Rating (almost)
WW Test Pilot
Monster Driver

Well I made it out in the 717 and shortly thereafter I was cruising past the airport at 4000 feet contemplating if I could land that sucker back in there or not.  Having dinged up my fair share of airplanes around here I decided not to tempt fate twice in one day though......

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EHAM-YSSY B772LR

I took off from MHTE in the L45 with RW WX (not that it made much diffrence) Then just to see if I could do it, I did the same take off in a C-141 Starlifter.

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-Howard
WWA1847
CVG

hcarter:

I took off from MHTE in the L45 with RW WX (not that it made much diffrence) Then just to see if I could do it, I did the same take off in a C-141 Starlifter.

Cool. I assume that means you were successful on all attempts and that it was FS9 and not FSX. (MHTE is a completely different airport in FSX.). Were you able to get back in?

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WWA1702 Senior Command Captain +3
RWP SEL Instrument Rating (almost)
WW Test Pilot
Monster Driver

I fly FSX, What is it that other Captain says? "the best there is." I honestly didn't try to get back in. I'm reasonably sure I could get the L45 back in, but I don't think I know enough about the C141 to get it back in there.

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-Howard
WWA1847
CVG

If you were in FSX, there is no challenge to it. In FS9, the aiport is in a big hole and is a lot more challenging. I think it is because FSX is able to map the surrounding terrain a lot better than FS9 was.

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WWA1702 Senior Command Captain +3
RWP SEL Instrument Rating (almost)
WW Test Pilot
Monster Driver

PhilCohen:

That is going to take the fun out of it.  I say if you have the access make it RW weather!!  You wouldn't turn the weather off if you were trying for a game winning FG would you?  Unless of course you were in Det, Minn, Indy, or New Orleans.

Hey Phil you forgot about Atlanta

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Director of Cargo Operations - Asia/Pacific


Rob Pomanti - WWA868 - LOA

I left them off on purpose well because THEY ARE THE ATLANTA FALCONS,  and they dont have to worry about game winning FG's with the team they have been fielding lately!!!

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I got one for you all. Get a Cessna 208 caravan, not the amphibian version, into PAWR and back out. Just did it the other day. Pretty much the airport is at the end of a valley in Alaska for the town of whiter. However, the catch is the runway is only 1400ft long and there is no chance for a go around.

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Anthony Miller- WWA1736, antmillerm@yahoo.com
Senior Command Captain, Hub Manager- KLAX
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